132 thoughts on “Dark in Death discussion thread”

  1. It got very meta, with the fictionalised crime and everything, but I really enjoyed it. I’d guessed most of the teasers correctly, except the mohair one, and that was a fun surprise! I love it when knitting and other fun crafty hobbies appear in books. Mavis, Leonardo & Belle’s cameo made me smile, she’s getting so big! And I loved the Eve & Roarke interactions in this one, especially when they were curled up in the library together. Also the little snippets into so many beloved characters’ personal lives – particularly Nadine’s (I’ve been wondering if something was happening with her and Jake and I’m psyched it is!) and that little conversation between Dennis and Mira was lovely. And Quilla is back! Which of course has been being teased, but am glad she is. Between her and Tiko (who I’m sure will turn up again at some point), I feel like the next generation is in pretty good shape.

    The crime itself was pretty fun, I liked the strong girl power thread running through it, and I liked the characters of Delano and her daughters. It was interesting that I felt as Eve was getting less frustrated and stressed about this one than normal. I’ll be interested to see if that changes for me on the second read through, which I might manage sometime today, though I have peach cobbler and shepherd’s pie to make first (and it definitely made me blink when the latter became a discussion point in the book). Ann’s motivation was interesting, and it made me think about how easy it is for obsession to twist. There was a lot going on in this one, by the nature of the crime, there were so many different scenes (rock, acting, craft, LC, tailoring) to explore which was interesting, though obviously that means you don’t get as much detail about any of them. I particularly liked Felicity. She reminded me of Ivanna actually, feminine women who aren’t what they seem, I feel like Eve admires them, but doesn’t understand them, and that’s a fun dynamic.

    Last few things; there were a lot of small winding through thread continuations in this, which I really enjoyed – the Oscars for one, and I really hope we see Eve there as it would be highly entertaining, the Taekwondo mention to show us that continued training is happening, and of course, Mexico for McNab and Peabody.

    Great fun, as ever, and gave me an excellent couple of hours last night, and I look forward to future reads!

    1. He emigrated from Ireland with Roarke, but he’s not a native of Ireland. I think there’s hints of eastern Europe in his background.

      Laura

  2. One word and I choked on my water, laughing hysterically and man did I get dirty looks. If they only new what they were missing.

    HITCHDICK LOL

    1. EVERY TIME Eve says something like that, I crack up. Then i get jealous that I didn’t think of it.

  3. I don’t remember Jake, Quilla, orTiko in any of the books. Can you help me? I just listened to most of the whole series again but nothing rings a bell. Who were they? Thanx.

    1. We meet Jake in Apprentice in Death (at MSG after the concert). Quilla steps on the page in Concealed in Death. Tiko shows up in Memory in Death and again in Festive.

      Laura

        1. Tiko is the young street vendor who directs Eve to an arrest in Memory. Quilla is one of the young women in the youth house in Concealed.

          Laura

          1. Tiko is not in Memory in Death that’s Kevin who is adopted by the parents of the victim in naked in Death, Tiko first shows up in Strangers

          2. Kevin isn’t in memory. He’s in the story where Roarke’s past comes up. I think it’s Vengeance. Tiko was super minor in Memory. Led Eve to that place where they were stealing wallets and identities

      1. Tiki makes an appearance in Strangers in Death, too. His Granny makes Dallas a lemon meringue pie.

    2. I just loved this book. I have read all of the series. There seems to be a maturity about Eve, perhaps it’s because Summerset wasn’t around. There was no emotional roller coaster. And Roarke seems more settled.
      What I really loved about it was the deconstruction of the crime novel. Fascinating. And I must confess the scene with Feeney is priceless. Jake and Nadine? Let’s hope. Thank you, JD for all your hard work and vision.

    3. I like to search “Tiko” on my Kindle when I read Festive in Death. It takes me to one of my favorite Christmas shopping scenes.

  4. Does J.D./Nora ever think “Thanks for your interest. Now fuck off.”? 😁 (I’m almost sure she’s said this many times but in definitely nicer ways, considering all the articles addressed to nagging and unsatisfied readers.)

    I’m deeply wondering if a lot of the writing processes in this book are autobiographical- and, does J.D. have a cop consultant? I can’t believe I’ve never wondered that before, considering the amount of cop procedures and jargon in the In Death series!

    I love all the girl power in this book! It definitely fits right in with current events! (Give or take some decades.) On that note, it was great to see Quilla doing well and I’m excited to see her journey in future books! Nadine and Jake- I really like Jake! Hide and seek scene- love it! Galahad being a jealous a*hole- love it! Feeney fanboying- love it! The teasers were right on! There was so much to love about this book that doesn’t take away any thrill or suspense from the case! I’m so excited to do the reread! Thank you, J.D., for another great read!

    P.S. I cannot wait to see what Roarke will do to the Nebraska property!

    1. I totally agree with you. I’m not finished with the book yet, but I really enjoyed the irony that Nora’s put in this book with regards to complaining /dissatisfied readers and ghost writers. 😀 That made me laugh out loud. Not sure if the digs were her intent or if it just read that way to me, but I loved it!

      It’s a very entertaining book. I believe that it’s going to end up being one of my very favourites. Good on ya Nora!

  5. OMG! I just finished. Another great Eve Dallas case investigated step-by-step to a satisfactory apprehension of the perp. Peabody is such a good foil/contrast to Eve -she’s gooey to Eve’s steel. The fan letters were mag – wonder if Nora used any that she actually received, tweaking them, of course. Fans can be so instrusive and rude. The characters rang true and the steps Eve took to solve the crimes were excellent. The bits of real life and humor were perfect – Bella repeating bad words, Galahad with sitting on Eve’s chest as it is time for food and hissing at the smell of dog, Peabody in the fabric/yarn store and the spritz of musky perfume, and so on. Makes for a solid well-rounded story of police work and Eve’s life. This one will settle as I look forward to the next criminal adventure of Eve, Roarke, Peabody, Mira, McNab, Feeney and company. Nora as J. D. Robb, you rock!

  6. I have just started the book and HAD to stop and write that I feel that p. 39-p.46 contains the most romantic scene that I have ever read regarding Eve and Roarke. There have been many memorable ones over the years but this embodies everything about their relationship. Just something about this scene that does it for me. Thanks Nora.

  7. I want a domestic droid to activate when I devour a new In Death book while eating dinner in my living room!

  8. Nice to see that Nora found an entertaining use for all the backseat writers and negative nonsense that comes her way. Only 1/2 way through but I cheer everytime Eve smacks down the “fans” who want Dark’s story to go their way instead of DeLano’s way. ❤️

    1. I just read a review of one of the trilogies where the blogger was saying awful NR books are now and that she must have a plot wheel of tropes that she spins.
      Shit you not, the author literally said “Moar Nora Roberts Hate plz.” to the others agreeing with her.
      Seriously? That’s what you do with your time? Complain about authors and books you don’t like?
      Then she went on to call her books ripoffs. Ummm you don’t know how against lifting work this particular author is, so maybe just be quiet.
      Grrr.
      I get that not everyone is going to like the books and authors I like, but some of that is just not necessary.

  9. Finished it in one sitting yesterday and ready for the 2nd go through today. It was great seeing some previous peripheral characters. I’m also loving these latest installments that show Eve comfortable with her life and everyone’s place in it. She had a lot of growth and emotional work to do to get to this place and it’s satisfying to read her more at ease.

  10. Loved it, as usual. Liked the comments from the author about fans with constant questions and unreal expectations!!😂

  11. Ok – Galahad and the “Wake-Up Stare” is hiliarous! Next fav so far – “Wait! What?!? Dallas, Lieutenant Eve is WHERE?” Am so glad I did not have a drink in had, Poor Roarke – that one almost did him in, hehehe!
    Almost to the end – we still haven’t named the killer but are hot on the trail after the night at the dance club.
    Thank you Nora/JD!!!

  12. Just finished it. Had some interesting twists. Glad to see Quilla. Interesting separate plot line for Nadine.

  13. Now when readers say , “Why don’t (insert characters’ names) do ( insert action)?” you can just tell them to reread page 64 of Dark in Death. Really enjoyed the book!

  14. Loved it! Flying dwarfs!! I loved the way she lectured to people about how not to be a pain in the ass fan. I also hope nobody has ever gone really psycho on her.

  15. So I’m still in the process of listening to Dark. I just want to say JD’s brain with Susan Ericksen’s voice is my happy place. I am reuniting with my favorite side of the family and catching up with all the goings on. Thank you for making my happy place f’ing awesome!

      1. Annae, it’s a whole new world. I’ve listened to the series multiple times. Let me know what you think when you try it!

  16. I love how the author and Eve discussed some of the problems that writers go through with their readers. Characters not progressing how the readers think they should, books not coming out quick enough. I know that J.D. Robb has had to deal with these problems .

  17. Eve Dallas is the best female character in writing in my opinion. I was actually eating a beet/goat cheese salad while reading the new book on my kindle and I suddenly thought “What would Eve think of this? It looks like eating blood and guts! Nothing like pizza!” I was laughing and choking on my salad. Seriously, I want to grow up to be just like her, a strong, able survivor who thrives despite all life’s blows.

  18. My favorite part was Eve and Roarke in the library, especially liked her reading ahead as I often do the same. I was glad to see Quilla return and headed in a good direction. Also glad that Nadine has found someone truly special in Jake. Really liked the Dark character and didn’t DeLano remind everyone of Nora/JD in her approach to how her characters develop. My problem is I end up reading for hours to finish and everything else gets neglected. (Really OK as I hate doing dishes.) Thanks for another great ride.

  19. I loved it! I really liked hearing about Nadine and Jake, seeing Quilla again. Really enjoyed Galahad’s jealous reaction. So funny!

  20. Did anyone else see the parallel between Blaine DeLane and Nora? Although not exact it did sort of leap out at me.

  21. The love seane is the best yet! Eve is more relaxed and playful!! Again awesome book!! I have all and reread from time to time. Not done with Dark in Death yet. Trying to take my time and really really enjoying it! Thank you Nora Roberts!!
    Ever think about making a movie from the JD Robb series??

  22. I just finished the book and I loved it. I always devour the In Death novels the day they are released and this time was no different. Before I became a widow in August of 2015, as soon as I would finish an In Death book, I’d start it all over again. After my husband passed, I would still read it as soon as I had it downloaded, but I quit doing the re-read immediately afterward. The books weren’t bad or different. I was different. Dark in Death is the first since I became a widow that I want to go back and re-read right away.

    I think Ms. Roberts successfully accomplished something else with this book as well. It let us, the readers, know that while our devotion to the characters in these books is more than appreciated, our input as to things we would like to see happen just don’t make sense sometimes. While we might feel the characters belong to us after 46 novels, they actually belong to the author who generously shares them with us. I’m grateful that she does. In the meantime, I’ll be re-reading Dark in Death, probably re-reading other books in the series and not so patiently waiting for the next one. Thank you.

  23. Re-reading it. The scene in the vet’s office reminded me of an Irish Wolfhound I used to dog-sit for. His name was Shamus, not Sampson, but he’d get a goofy look every time he saw me and race up and plant his paws on my shoulders, I sometimes came home with paw shaped bruises!

  24. I just finished my first re-read of Dark in Death. On the 30th @12:05am, I downloaded from Barnes and Noble, then read through the night into late morning when I finished. I was too tired and achy from sitting in the same position so long, to think anything but Another great book and I love how comments similar to what we sometimes too avid fans post on FB and Fall Into the Story were in the book.
    After my re-read, it’s still a great story, glad for Quilla, Nadine, glad McNab has bounce back, and mostly glad Eve and Roarke have each other! Thank you Nora/JD.

  25. I just got my book a couple of hours ago. I just finished chapter two. I want to take my time reading it since I have to wait six months for the next book. It’s hard. I want to stay up all night to finish reading it. I love how Roarke just gets Eve. I’ve only read two chapters and you can already see it. She always makes me hungry. I want spaghetti and meatballs now. I plan on having a glass of wine tomorrow when I read! I love the way J.D. Robb writes because for me it’s like watching a movie reading her work. I can’t wait to read the rest of the book!!

  26. I think this may be a new favorite! Not so much because of the murder plot, but the interaction of so many of my favorite characters! LOVED seeing Quilla again – I hope she’s a regular from now on. I hope Jake and Nadine can make something together. So many other great moments, I can’t mention them all! Thanks, again, for another wonderful story! Now I’m going to plug in my audio version so I can listen to it while I catch up on the work I ignored to read the book!

  27. It’s really nice to see Eve settling into her life…and maybe having fewer traumatic flashbacks to endure (she’s out of bio-parents, thank gods). Examples of Eve’s progress abound…Peabody’s fiber-gift, multiple Roarke scenes, Feeney & Jake, Eve’s take on Nadine & Jake, Eve’s referring Nadine to Quilla…

    Now if it was only possible to fix the Morris (Morse) and Santiago (Sanchez) misspellings in so many past In Death tales…it makes re-reading them a challenge (from aggravation/frustration while snarling at the poorfeeders & editors past!) I’d volunteer to proofread for her because WAAAAY too many homonym errors creep in (toe the line/tow the line; take a tact/take a tack; troth/trough…)

  28. Am I the only one who was disappointed that there was not more interaction with the “family” that Eve has created for herself. Seems the last few books have had so much more detail about the crimes things I felt could have been left out and never missed; and replaced with more time with the characters we have come to love. Watching her interact with those who have become family and friends to Eve was why I started reading the series in the first place. One of the reasons I didn’t like Sue Grafton was because of all of the technical stuff and not enough every day life stuff. She didn’t even have Summerset to spar with in the book. The plot was interesting and that kept me going but I just didn’t enjoy it as much as I have previous books because of the lack of interaction from all of our old friends. Normally I devour one of these books in a day- it’s taken me 3 this time. I know these are her books and she writes them the way she feels she needs to; but I just feel a little bit cheated.

    1. In the In Death world, Eve and Roarke just saw everyone socially three books ago in Apprentice in Death at Bella’s party. Yes, that’s longer in real time — but you’re not going to see non-work friends in every single book. Eve’s driven by the case at hand which in turn drives who shows up in supporting roles.

      Summerset was away for all of Imitation in Death — he leaves occasionally for vacation. We’d never see Eve scattering clothes throughout the house if he was there. And Roarke would never answer the burning reader question about house droids.

      Every reader will come at a book from a different perspective and set of expectations. And in the end, every reader will decide whether they want to continue on with the series or not.
      Laura

      1. Well said. I think some readers forget how little time has elapsed since the first book – 2-3 years (I think). I forget the exact timing, but do realize it is sometimes just a day or two between books, maybe a week. I like when Eve’s family plays a role and there is always some of them in each book. As a reader, I am always greedy for more from my authors, but understand life and reality, which is why I read several different authors, and why I reread Nora’s books over and over again.

      2. It’s been awhile since I wrote it, but IIRC, we had a scene or two with Feeney, interaction with the squad. Mavis and Bella show up. We have Nadine, and we bring back Quilla, who appeared in Concealed. Summerset’s on his (annual in book time) winter vacation, but we had a pivotal scene with him in the previous book.

        So there is considerable interacting with characters who’ve become family and friends—just not all of them as that’s impossible in most books. Actually, pretty impossible in reality, too.

        If the primary reason to read the series is interaction with all characters every book, regardless of plot, you’re going to be disappointed. I hate having a reader disappointed, but this is an expectation I can’t possibly fulfill.

        1. I enjoy the In Death books, not for what I want but for the different world and the surprise of what can happen next. If you want character driven drama, watch a soap opera.

    2. I felt this book lacked verve and was a faded version of her usual writing. I was disappointed.

        1. This book was very good, and could see jd Robb in it and harder to figure out who the killer was. Really enjoy each one better each time. Also nice to see Eve I guess relax a bit more around her “ family”. Thanks!

          1. You may be ready, but she’s not!

            Plus, why is it important? She and McNab are pretty happy as they are.

          2. It was just a couple months before, I think, in Celebrity that they talked about it – agreed to put it on a back burner until they ‘grew up’.

          3. What is it about babies with you people? It’s a cop series, for Pete’s sake, with some really, really good recurring characters in their late 20s to early 30s, with projected lifespans of 120+ years. Young characters who work in high risk careers. Why would they want children so young, and anyway Nora’s said no, over and over again. Get a clue. Thank all the gods and goddesses that the series is staffed by a really awesome writer and give it a rest.

        2. My Gran used to say if there’s more than one person in the room, there’s bound to be a disagreement. Loved how this book covered so much ground in the characters, and the great ‘tour’ of the house, courtesy of the hide and seek game. I was looking up pictures of a Corot and hunt tables – lol. I love to paint, so always enjoy your color-filled descriptions!

    3. I felt this book had me mired down in the killers mind far too long. I was half way through the book before I became totally engrosed with the story! However, it has helped reading all the comments: everyone reminded me of all the stuff we love about Dallas and her world. The flying dwarf, Nadines new guy, a brief glympse of Fienie (sp) acting like a young teen, Mavis’ s family, R and D having sex in room after room…my favorite is the ball room! All in all, another great book! Loving your work, as usual! Can’t wait for the next!

  29. I have listened to the audiobook twice now, and I want to say that Eve Dallas is one of my favorite characters . I really like how Eve and Roarke have evolved into a cohesive unit. A good example is how she was worried about him when she got home ahead of him in the snow storm, and didn’t know it. I love the interaction of all the characters. I loved the vet office scene, and then Galahad’s reaction when she got home. I have a cat very similar to him. So I truly enjoy the scenes he participates in.

    I have never written a fan letter to Nora. I have thought of it a couple of times, but I realized she probably gets so many, and I didn’t want to make a pest of myself. I did wonder however, why there was no reference to Eve’s fan mail and some corillation to “Obsession” especially since that was only a couple of books ago. Even if it was just a simple reflection. Eve went through much the same type of thing (sifting through the letters and fan-based likes / dislikes) in that story as she did in “Dark”. There seemed to be some similarities.

    Anyway, kudos to Nora/JD. Another masterpiece.

    1. I was listening to the flying dwarf scene on my way home and the drivers around me must have thought I was crazy by the laughter at the dialogue between Dallas and Jake, “It happens”

  30. There have been several romantic scenes between Dallas and Roarke. However, my 2nd favorite is in this book. The ballroom scene in Chapter 3 is right up there with the gray button from Naked in Death. [Sigh]

  31. Love this series and eagerly await every new book. Would love to see something happen with Peabody and McNabb but will wait in anticipation for it. Bring on September

      1. Jeez, they live in an apartment, and have demanding jobs that keep them out of that apartment for the bulk of the day, and often at night. Who’d walk the dog, play with the dog, feed the dog?

        1. We’ve seen lots of people who live in apartments who have dogs. I also don’t mean now. Down the road.

        2. Me. Me. Me. Then I could live in Dallas world, and poor Nora would have to figure out what to do with me … Get serious, people. If you want dogs, read The Search.

  32. I was so excited to start reading I barely looked at the cover. As someone lucky enough to have been to Times Square, I just looked more closely- love it!! I see JD must be a huge fan of Kinky Boots 🙂

  33. It’s the little scenes that get me rereading the whole series, every time. From this new book – Baxter’s quick interaction with Bella, how the whole squad room jumps up to help Peabody after the flying dwarf, and the ‘we’re cops’ exchange. Go team! There are so many more, but those are the ones that come to mind right now. A great read, and it did get me through my sick day!

  34. I liked the scene with the dog and Eve (she is definitely an Alpha). With Summerset gone, I wondered if they have a droid that scoops the litter box.

  35. Excellent read as always. Interesting characters reentering this book. I’m thinking Jake reminds me a little of Roarke.
    Thank you Nora Roberts aka J.D. Robb. You have a gift.

  36. I always enjoy anything Nora/JD writes but I have to say this latest In Death book had so many scenes that made me laugh, stop to think and enjoy the characters even more. Thank you Nora for all your hard work.

  37. Second read through and I just loved this book. Great fun with the author discussing readers/fans wanting things their way in books – laughed so much over that. I love how the books show a part of their lives, never knowing which way its going to turn. A new favorite!

  38. Loved, loved, loved it! No such thing as a bad In Death book, and this one may have kicked Origin out of my top spot….

    Couldn’t help but compare parts of this story to what JD deals with. People telling her how the story should go, getting pissy when things don’t go how they want, etc. Then the obvious, in my mind anyway, of Delano as JD, and Aubrey (Audrey? The mom!) as Laura. Made me wonder if NR/JD has had any borderline psycho fans. I’m slightly psycho about her books, but only as far as anxious for the next one!

    I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so much through one of the In Death books before. So many giggle inducing moments! The dog at the vet, Galahad’s reaction, Felicity pulling out the back fist, and so many more! Keep the stories coming!

  39. Really enjoyed this one. Nice to see an openly bi character and a nod towards the difference between the killer dressing as men and women and someone who’s transgender.

    I’ve got to say though, I’m quite disappointed that words like “tranny” (and to a lesser degree “switch hitter”) were used. These are really offensive and I wasn’t expecting to see them in what is usually quite open minded and diverse writing.

      1. That might be cop talk now but it’s highly offensive. I hoped that in this series understanding of gender diversity would have progressed enough that the characters would be more informed. I don’t recall them ever saying anything racist, sexist (to this degree) or homophobic; I wouldn’t expect them to be transphobic or biphobic either.

        First time I’ve been disappointed with this series but I understand that you can’t please everyone all the time.

        1. Absolutely agreed. That comment took me aback when I read it. Felt completely unneeded for the story. I understand the need to represent a variety of characters who not all speak perfectly inoffensively. But this is not a historical novel which needs to be true to the time period. This is fiction, in the future.

          1. Yes, it’s fiction, and the characters within the fictional world must speak in a way that reflects the characters. These are cops, and for me, this was their shorthand rather than transphobic or sexist. When Eve or one of the other cops uses ‘skirt’ to describe a woman, it’s not meant to be sexist, but it could certainly be construed that way.

            I feel, and strongly, I’ve shown diversity throughout the series.

            Others make it known they find my characters ‘taking the name of our lord in vain’ offensive. Others are certain cops don’t say fuck and find that offensive.

            So no, you can’t please everyone, and you’re almost assured you’ll offend someone.

          2. Absolutely! Steven Saylor had a cat killed in one of his books and got lambasted from fans, some going so far as to tell him to change it for the paperback edition. To me, in mysteries, thrillers, crime novels, there is always something that is offensive or unlikeable. If it bothers the reader too much, skip it or don’t read that book. I love how you depict the future, showing the advances, but also showing that crime basically remains the same. Crime is ugly and the people who deal with it on a daily basis develop coping mechanisms, which includes offensive language. Keep writing your wonderful novels. As you said, you can’t please everyone.

          3. Who said if you don’t offend at least one person, you’re not doing it right? I had to stop laughing about the people who are sure cops don’t swear. They’re human, and by the nature of their jobs, they don’t always deal with grammar-perfect people. I never saw the verbiage you used as anything but cop shorthand. I’m sure when they met their local cops, they spoke respectfully and in a politically-correct manner, but seriously, no swearing? I was a rape-crisis volunteer for ten years, and in the room with the victim, they were perfectly correct and gentle. Once outside, they had plenty to say about what happened to that kid or woman in the exam room. NONE of it politically correct, all of it human. You’re spot on, Nora.

      2. Thank you Nora for pointing that out.

        Not everyone in life is “politically correct” and in everyday life we hear evidence of that fact and should be thankful you strive for reality in your books.

        To be offended by words is a bit petty when compared with the way things have improved for transgender people over the years.

  40. I just finished this book and have to say I loved it. I thought the whole concept of an author of a murder series, Nora, writing about an author of a murder series which comes alive to another wannabe author was really great. I could picture Nora sitting at her desk and looking over at her many books of her In Death series and getting this idea…..what if….and starting putting down the ideas which becomes this book. The comments about how people feel about what they think should and should not happen in a book is very real as it happens to her. I loved how Eve and Roarke have evolved into such a great couple. Their relationship has been an emotional journey that brings them to a great place. As always, I laughed out loud at the Peabody/Eve banter. And the Feeney rock star lover and how Eve handled that was really the best. Can’t wait for the next book and the next adventure!

  41. I enjoyed this book quite a bit. Funny scenes, interesting premise. I liked the additional locations like Brooklyn. Fun read.

    The only other thing I would say is that the murderer didn’t feel as fleshed out as usual and maybe a little too similar to the villain from Obsession in Death.

  42. Silly question for all Veterans but what is the first book on the In-Death Series?
    I remember someone mentioning – too long ago to remember details – that the first book wasn’t named “in-death”.
    Sorry for the silly question Laura 😀 but I think I’ll surrender and dive into this series.
    Thanks in advance

  43. Love the In Death books overall! Am a bit perplexed by the Dark in Death book because of the description of the suspect. On pgs 105-106 Peabody states Killer is female, no hair showing, partial on face. Then on pg 192 Dallas says the suspect is white, red hair with blue side dreds, with an orange dragon tattoo on right wrist. Where did that stuff come from? I’ve read several times trying to find out where this info came into the story but can’t find it. Is my copy of the book messed up or what?
    Have to say that I really do love this book & the series! Can’t wait for the next one! Thank you Nora Roberts!

    1. The suspect wore different disguises for each murder, so her appearance changed at each murder as she took on the appearance of the killer in the book she was mirroring. It’s pretty clearly outlined as it’s a key element in the investigation.

    2. Eve’s description of red hair, blue dreds and dragon tattoo comes from the character in Blaine DeLano’s book that the killer is copying.

    3. I had the exact same question about the dreds and tattoo. I am reading it for the second time and still missed where that was described. I figured it was from a character in the Blaine DeLano book. Maybe I will catch it when I read it the next time. JD Robb and Nora are ALWAYS my go to books!!

  44. I really like dark in death more than secrets in death.
    The best thing I like it your books is that characters grow as the time passes. It’s been a while since I’m reading and re rereading in death series and I love the fact that with time their relation ship is maturing.
    Plot was reallygood . Best part was I was thinking this was the killer. But it turned out someone completley else.

  45. Glad to see the Author on here chatting also. I love all the books, the characters are like old friends to me at this point and reading a new book is just catching up. They are funny, and often quite entertaining. JD writes them so clearly you can visualize them/scenes while reading. Love the series, looking forward to the next one! In the meantime, I’ll reread earlier books! Thank you JD/Nora!

  46. Feeney as a rock fanboy, was hilarious. Peabody in the fabric store… Galahad pissed over the dog.. Loved this one.

  47. Feel free to smack me, but I am listening to the book (I don’t have time to sit and read) and somewhere I missed what the term “LC” means. I have been racking my brain and searching the internet trying to figure it out with nothing. What does LC stand for? Thanks!

  48. This book is very entertaining, as usual. I laugh many times throughout the book. I have NEVER been disappointed with ANY of the books in this series. I don’t understand why anyone thinks this book should be written different than it is. They are thinking like the killer in this book, trying to rewrite it how they want it to be. I would not change a thing. It is my favorite series.

  49. Just finished the book on a cold, wet and rainy day in Maui. Loved it. Love when you bring back characters from other books. Had to stop and remember who Quilla was and Jake. I am re-listening to Apprentice in death now and Jake and Nadine just had a scene. Made me smile as I went back to read Dark in Death. Will have to re read Dark in death later and see what I missed. Your writing just gets better and better. Thank you for the hours of entertainment.

  50. My grandmother and my mother were avid readers of Ellery Queen and Agatha Christie…I guess now that I’m a mom and grandmother I started my own tradition with a great author’s books to pass on to my kids. Nora you hit that honor twice! I have almost every book by Nora and every book by JD Robb. September seems too far away until the next Death book…I guess I’ll just start over and read them all again…love them!

  51. Listening to audiobook during my hour each way commute. Almost done. 😢 “Dark Justice” made me laugh out loud. Love Peabody!😂

  52. I’m around your age and have noticed there are a lot of people that are offended by the weirdest things. I don’t know how we managed to make it to our age. (Sarcastic face) lol 😉

  53. Dark In Death! My now go to book when feeling blue!
    This book had me snorting and grinning while on the treadmill at the gym. ( I got a few looks..).
    Is the song playing in the background at the morgue Matchmaker from Fiddler on the Roof?,or is there a newer song? Haven’t seen a newer Broadway play for a bit.
    The development of love Eve has for her circle is wonderful. She complemented Mira about being pretty. She use to feel awkward at expressing feelings.
    The ballroom, the clothes, the cat! Oh the Vets office! snort again.
    But what gets me mushy every time is the button.
    I get the meaning of the button. It goes deep.
    I listen on audible and as it is rainy, cold and dreary today, I will listen and Adult Color, because I do not have talent to make such beautiful knitting like Peabody.

  54. Dark in Death was so entertaining and fulfilling. I love reading the in death series. I think they are so heavy and serious and ‘dark’ that it makes me enjoy the breaks we get with the interactions with regulars. Thanks again for awesome book! Love reading these discussions also….pretty entertaining lol.
    I have to admit I wondered if any of this related to Nora’s real life experiences as a writer and relationship with readers. Whether it does or not still amazing talent.

  55. Dark is my new favorite of the series. I think it is the first book that I finished and immediately reread again. I love all of the characters in this series and feel sad when I have to say goodbye at the end of the book. So, I started back at Naked and am now reading Loyalty. 😀 (This is my third trek through the series.) It is wonderful to see how the characters change and grow through the series.

    Thank you, Nora, for writing about people and worlds that take us away to new adventures – not just In Death but everything you write.

  56. Thank you Nora for continuing the In Death series. It’s like visiting family with every read. Highly entertaining but comforting at the same time. Unfortunately, I must wait until my birthday to read the newest book. It’s a tradition that my husband buys me one of your new books for my birthday. March can’t come fast enough. 💜

  57. Dark in Death– just finished, excellent!! On pg 4 a little more than half way down the page “Since Eve considered Peabody’s
    skinny,……..” she uses the word e-ace. Please tell me what it means? Thank You

    1. Eve is thinking about McNabb who is skinny and brilliant at technology, therefore an ace at electronics — skinny e-ace

  58. I always love all the In Death books. This was the first time i listened to any of these books and i had a hard time at first because the voices didn’t match what i hear when i read (especially Peabody’s). But as always, such a great story! At first i thought it may have been Delano, but only for a moment, i don’t know why i thought that 😄

  59. I have always enjoyed the In Death series. I feel as if you are drawn into the story from the offset by the clever writing of the author.

    I was on the bus when I read the part about the dog jumping up and licking Eve on the face. Had to stop myself from laughing out loud!

    Sorry, but now a major criticism. I for one am getting sick and tired of the sexist, hypocritical, derogatory comments and double standards towards women. I lost count of the amount of times the women were called skanks in this book. From therein this totally spoilt the story for me. Women are not skanks, tarts, whores or the very derogatory term sidepieces. These women were possible victims, not skanks. We are human beings, not slabs of meat or to be degenerated by anybody. Once the insulting skank insults started, I stopped enjoying the novel. I seriously hope the writer takes this on board for the next book in the series.

    1. The dialogue comes straight from the characters, and they will use shorthand like those terms at times. As Nora said in a comment up thread, “Yes, it’s fiction, and the characters within the fictional world must speak in a way that reflects the characters. These are cops, and for me, this was their shorthand rather than transphobic or sexist. When Eve or one of the other cops uses ‘skirt’ to describe a woman, it’s not meant to be sexist, but it could certainly be construed that way.”

      Laura

  60. Need some help here!! As Eve is interviewing the “Skanks” she is giving a pretty good description of the suspect re hair color & tat… But… I can’t find earlier in the book WHERE she got this info? Was I reading half-asleep & missed it? Did I somehow skip a page? I’ve flipped back through the pages & still can’t find it…As I’m sure you avid readers know, this is making me NUTS!! Thanks for any help on this!!

    1. On page 135, eve says she’s reading Dark Deeds, the third book in the series. Om page 164 she describes the killer in Dark Deeds to Roarke. The killer is dressing like the killers in the books.

      Laura

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